‘No Guide for This’: the Bump Vodcast on Adulting With Kids
“I wish this parenting gig came with a playbook!” says practically every parent, ever. And we get it—the transition between adulting and adulting with kids can be a rocky one, full of challenges and uncertainties and without a map to guide you through it. No Guide for This, a new vodcast from The Bump, takes a deep dive into that transformative phase and explores the experiences and swirling questions about navigating life while raising little ones.
No Guide for This offers parents a sense of supportive community at this pivotal stage. Get ready for candid conversations with celebrity guests and The Bump hosts Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith as they serve up relatable stories, meaningful insights and a healthy dose of humor. Whether you’re newly postpartum, in the throes of toddlerhood or debating whether you want to have children at all, you’ll find here an honest look at life, relationships and the identity shifts that happen when kids arrive on the scene.
Ready to tune in? The No Guide for This podcast is streaming on Apple Music and Spotify, with a total of eight episodes this season. Check out the No Guide for This vodcast on YouTube, or keep scrolling to find the latest episodes.
Aired May 14, 2025 | 58 mins
Hosts: Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith
Caroline Baudino is Coming in Hot! Which also happens to be the title of her new podcast, where she’s inspiring women to become their most empowered selves. The fashion influencer, known for her platform Shop with Caroline, wants to change what it looks like to be a woman in midlife, proving that this period can be exciting, stylish and sexy. In episode 8 of No Guide for This, Caroline chats with Jen and Sasha about the new podcast, parenting her two sons, keeping her marriage hot—and her dream fashion collabs (Caroline x Chanel, let’s manifest it!). Tune in for an honest, raw conversation.
Aired May 7, 2025 | 48 mins
Hosts: Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith
Kids on leashes! Sexy maternity photo shoots! Blinged-out holiday cards! In episode 7, No Guide for This podcast hosts Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith get honest about all those things people might judge when it comes to parenting. But that’s not all: From how to make mom friends you actually like to how to stop worrying about having the perfectly curated social media feed, they discuss topics that every parent and parent-to-be can relate to with raw honesty, humor and insight.
Aired April 30, 2025 | 62 mins
Hosts: Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith
Guest: Melanie Fiona
Grammy-winning singer-songwriter Melanie Fiona is in a busy season of life: She has a new album, she’s getting ready to go on tour—and amidst it all, she’s a mom to Cameron, 8, and Kaia, 3. But she wouldn’t have it any other way. In the sixth episode of No Guide for This with hosts Jen and Sasha, Melanie opens up about postpartum anxiety and isolation and how that led her to find a community of women through her podcast The Mama’s Den, her favorite music collabs (she’s worked with everyone from Drake to CeeLo) and how she balances her busy life. Tune in for a wide-ranging conversation where she gets deep about her life purpose and her parenting philosophy.
Aired April 23, 2025 | 40 mins
Hosts: Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith
Guest: Kelly Mi Li
You may know Kelly Mi Li as the producer and star of Bling Empire, but she is also now a mother. She sits down with Jen and Sasha for the fifth episode of No Guide for This to chat about what life looks like now that her 2-year-old daughter is on the scene. (Spoiler: Ms. Rachel is now a daily staple.) Kelly opens up about everything from how she met her husband to getting pregnant at age 38, and how she’s blending cultural traditions with modern parenting to impart important life lessons to her daughter. Tune in for a lively conversation about postpartum practices, returning to work, generational shifts and, of course, Kelly’s latest projects.
Aired April 16, 2025 | 64 mins
Hosts: Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith
Guest: Kendra Segura, MD
In the fourth episode of No Guide for This, Jen and Sasha welcome Kendra Segura, MD, ob-gyn, reality star and women’s health advocate to the show. Segura gets candid about how she juggles her work and parenting her 5-year-old son Hart, how she advocates for patients and the body changes she went through postpartum. She also discusses her concierge medical practice Ask Dr. Kendra, and her stint on Married to Medicine: Los Angeles, offering both deep inspiration and laughs.
Aired April 9, 2025 | 43 mins
Hosts: Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith
Guest: Heather Rae El Moussa
Selling Sunset star Heather Rae El Moussa joins hosts Jen and Sasha for the third episode of No Guide for This. Heather dishes on everything from what it was like filming reality TV while pregnant to being a stepmom in a blended family and how she’s nurtured a positive co-parenting relationship with her stepkids’ mother. Tune in her top tips for navigating pregnancy and postpartum and staying grounded as a busy working mom.
Aired April 2, 2005 | 60 mins
Hosts: Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith
Guest: Whitney Port
In this second episode, Jen and Sasha chat with influencer, entrepreneur and The Hills star Whitney Port about fertility, surrogacy, IVF and her path to motherhood. Whitney, mom to 7-year-old Sonny, opens up about the unexpected challenges—both physical and emotional—that have come up as she and husband Timmy look to expand their family, what their surrogacy experience has been like so far and the lessons learned along the way.
Aired April 2, 2005 | 47 mins
Hosts: Jen Hayes Lee and Sasha Smith
In this inaugural episode of No Guide for This, Jen, a mom to three boys, and Sasha, who is in the midst of family planning, get candid about the expectations and realities of parenthood and the often-bumpy road that gets you there. Jen shares her pregnancy experiences, Sasha opens up about trying to conceive, and together they tackle big questions, from how parenting can impact your career and relationships, to how to cope with friends’ pregnancy announcements when it’s just not happening for you. Tune in for an open conversation between two women at very different stages of the parenthood journey.
Jen Hayes Lee is a visionary content leader, brand builder and passionate advocate for families. As Head of Marketing and Content at The Bump, she leads editorial and community initiatives that center around inclusive storytelling and empower parents through every stage of the journey.
Jen is also the founder of Bestow, a modern lifestyle brand offering everyday luxuries—most notably her signature gold hoops. Her debut children’s book, The Golden Hoops (HarperCollins, September 2025), is an inspiring tribute to identity, belonging and the beauty of sharing your gifts with the world.
A proud New Orleanian and graduate of Emory University (BBA) and NYU (MBA), Jen now lives in New Jersey, where she heroically represents 100 percent of the household’s female population as a wife and mom to three wildly energetic boys.
Sasha Smith is a creative thinker with a passion for social media and marketing. As the Sr. Brand Development Manager for The Bump, she oversees all organic and paid social media channels along with the development of video channel strategies to bring The Bump’s content into the future. While not yet a parent herself, she has found a true love for helping parents and parents-to-be through the guidance, support and empowerment that The Bump offers its inclusive community.
Sasha brings her experience as an influencer to her role, with over 22,000 followers and brand collaborations such as Dermalogica, Target, Bobbi Brown, Estee Lauder and Lancome, among others. A true multi-hyphenate, she has also spent time as an actor, model and signed recording artist in Malaysia, where her debut single reached #1 on Hitz FM with over five million YouTube views.
Sasha has been featured in Orlando Voyager, Amazon Live, Hitz FM, Asia Fashion Week, Spotify, Asian Pop Radio, Itunes, TV3 and countless social media videos.
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